i heard people just like him who used similar critiques to say why we shouldn't have a martin luther king jr. holiday, because oh, he was somehow a communist. and look, even the senator, you know, he chooses to keep his state office open on mlk day. if you do the research. so i'm just curious to him, is it okay to be celebrating mlk day? is that okay? can we get your permission? >> sure. there's a big difference. martin luther king -- >> i'm just checking. >> ron karenga was a violent -- >> what about columbus day, senator? did you keep your office open on columbus day? >> well, we all have our offices open on columbus day. right. >> okay. because some people claim that columbus also and columbus day is something that we shouldn't observe because a lot of people died. >> well, columbus was the person who founded america kind of on behalf of the eastern hemisphere and -- >> oh, but you forgot his history, though. >> benefiting from america today -- >> yeah, i think if you asked a lot of native americans they'd be pretty upset about the idea that we celebrate how america ended up -- >>